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		<title>By: onetamad</title>
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		<dc:creator>onetamad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^Not that I know of, no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^Not that I know of, no.</p>
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		<title>By: kamote</title>
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		<dc:creator>kamote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comment thread here is almost as funny as the article itself.

Alan is a member of your staff, right? 

Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment thread here is almost as funny as the article itself.</p>
<p>Alan is a member of your staff, right? </p>
<p>Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 02:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I smell an Equal Rights for Undins movement bubbling up. Such fervor!</description>
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		<title>By: Duckses</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duckses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 06:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno about the Undin, but growing up in the province, I once had a  bayawak (monitor lizard, over a meter in length) crawl out of the toilet. What lasting psychological scars I&#039;m still carrying around from THAT, I don&#039;t even want to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno about the Undin, but growing up in the province, I once had a  bayawak (monitor lizard, over a meter in length) crawl out of the toilet. What lasting psychological scars I&#8217;m still carrying around from THAT, I don&#8217;t even want to know.</p>
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		<title>By: onetamad</title>
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		<dc:creator>onetamad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 01:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, buddy.</description>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 01:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>onetamad,

1. so your answer to our disagreement is to just chalk it all up to one fact: You don\&#039;t have a sufficiently rarified imagination to believe in the undin. I do. But if that is the case, should you be writing about a field in which your imagination is not up to par? You\&#039;re like a non-math layperson talking about quantum physics and topology. maybe you should stick to writing about stuff you actually understand.

2. To be completely comprehensive about this, I\&#039;m not just talking about your lack of imagination and suspension of disbelief. You also failed to reason out things rigorously. The undin\&#039;s choice of toilet as a point of attack makes complete sense: 

a. he\&#039;s a sea creature. where would he feel most comfortable to attack? surely, somewhere with water: toilet. Also, if you were an intruder, like the undin, what part of a house would you naturally gravitate to? Surely, the room with the least number of people together. Surely, the room in which it can lie in wait silently and bide its time and maybe attack one person at a time: toilet. When i proposed the sewer system as a way of travel for the undin, I may have pushed the envelope. But is it retarded? No. I just have imagination. 

b. the toilet, in my opinion, holds a very important significance for the human psyche. it is, after all, where we take a dump or urinate. It\&#039;s a very private place, in other words. One where we keep our secrets. Just the fact that the undin attacks us in this very private of places, attacks us at our most vulnerable, speaks volumes about why the filipinos who watched the film were scared of using toilets for weeks. A monster that attacks us at our most vulnerable? This is not retarded. This is horrifying. This is brilliant psychological crugsetting by the writer who wrote this.

onetamad, you\&#039;re obviously an educated person, no question about that. you write, after all, with impeccable grammar. That is not what is at issue.  i just hope that, when you don\&#039;t understand something, you do some research or soul-searching first. Don\&#039;t immediately label it as retarded. Think first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>onetamad,</p>
<p>1. so your answer to our disagreement is to just chalk it all up to one fact: You don\&#8217;t have a sufficiently rarified imagination to believe in the undin. I do. But if that is the case, should you be writing about a field in which your imagination is not up to par? You\&#8217;re like a non-math layperson talking about quantum physics and topology. maybe you should stick to writing about stuff you actually understand.</p>
<p>2. To be completely comprehensive about this, I\&#8217;m not just talking about your lack of imagination and suspension of disbelief. You also failed to reason out things rigorously. The undin\&#8217;s choice of toilet as a point of attack makes complete sense: </p>
<p>a. he\&#8217;s a sea creature. where would he feel most comfortable to attack? surely, somewhere with water: toilet. Also, if you were an intruder, like the undin, what part of a house would you naturally gravitate to? Surely, the room with the least number of people together. Surely, the room in which it can lie in wait silently and bide its time and maybe attack one person at a time: toilet. When i proposed the sewer system as a way of travel for the undin, I may have pushed the envelope. But is it retarded? No. I just have imagination. </p>
<p>b. the toilet, in my opinion, holds a very important significance for the human psyche. it is, after all, where we take a dump or urinate. It\&#8217;s a very private place, in other words. One where we keep our secrets. Just the fact that the undin attacks us in this very private of places, attacks us at our most vulnerable, speaks volumes about why the filipinos who watched the film were scared of using toilets for weeks. A monster that attacks us at our most vulnerable? This is not retarded. This is horrifying. This is brilliant psychological crugsetting by the writer who wrote this.</p>
<p>onetamad, you\&#8217;re obviously an educated person, no question about that. you write, after all, with impeccable grammar. That is not what is at issue.  i just hope that, when you don\&#8217;t understand something, you do some research or soul-searching first. Don\&#8217;t immediately label it as retarded. Think first.</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 01:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>onetamad,

1. so your answer to our disagreement is to just chalk it all up to one fact: You don&#039;t have a sufficiently rarified imagination to believe in the undin. I do. But if that is the case, should you be writing about a field in which your imagination is not up to par? You&#039;re like a non-math layperson talking about quantum physics and topology. maybe you should stick to writing about stuff you actually understand.

2. To be completely comprehensive about this, I&#039;m not just talking about your lack of imagination and suspension of disbelief. You also failed to reason out things rigorously. The undin&#039;s choice of toilet as a point of attack makes complete sense: 

a. he&#039;s a sea creature. where would he feel most comfortable to attack? surely, somewhere with water: toilet. Also, if you were an intruder, like the undin, what part of a house would you naturally gravitate to? Surely, the room with the least number of people together. Surely, the room in which it can lie in wait silently and bide its time and maybe attack one person at a time: toilet. When i proposed the sewer system as a way of travel for the undin, I may have pushed the envelope. But is it retarded? No. I just have imagination. 

b. the toilet, in my opinion, holds a very important significance for the human psyche. it is, after all, where we take a dump or urinate. It&#039;s a very private place, in other words. One where we keep our secrets. Just the fact that the undin attacks us in this very private of places, attacks us at our most vulnerable, speaks volumes about why the filipinos who watched the film were scared of using toilets for weeks. A monster that attacks us at our most vulnerable? This is not retarded. This is horrifying. This is brilliant psychological crugsetting by the writer who wrote this.

onetamad, you&#039;re obviously an educated person, no question about that. you write, after all, with impeccable grammar. That is not what is at issue.  i just hope that, when you don&#039;t understand something, you do some research or soul-searching first. Don&#039;t immediately label it as retarded. Think first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>onetamad,</p>
<p>1. so your answer to our disagreement is to just chalk it all up to one fact: You don&#8217;t have a sufficiently rarified imagination to believe in the undin. I do. But if that is the case, should you be writing about a field in which your imagination is not up to par? You&#8217;re like a non-math layperson talking about quantum physics and topology. maybe you should stick to writing about stuff you actually understand.</p>
<p>2. To be completely comprehensive about this, I&#8217;m not just talking about your lack of imagination and suspension of disbelief. You also failed to reason out things rigorously. The undin&#8217;s choice of toilet as a point of attack makes complete sense: </p>
<p>a. he&#8217;s a sea creature. where would he feel most comfortable to attack? surely, somewhere with water: toilet. Also, if you were an intruder, like the undin, what part of a house would you naturally gravitate to? Surely, the room with the least number of people together. Surely, the room in which it can lie in wait silently and bide its time and maybe attack one person at a time: toilet. When i proposed the sewer system as a way of travel for the undin, I may have pushed the envelope. But is it retarded? No. I just have imagination. </p>
<p>b. the toilet, in my opinion, holds a very important significance for the human psyche. it is, after all, where we take a dump or urinate. It&#8217;s a very private place, in other words. One where we keep our secrets. Just the fact that the undin attacks us in this very private of places, attacks us at our most vulnerable, speaks volumes about why the filipinos who watched the film were scared of using toilets for weeks. A monster that attacks us at our most vulnerable? This is not retarded. This is horrifying. This is brilliant psychological crugsetting by the writer who wrote this.</p>
<p>onetamad, you&#8217;re obviously an educated person, no question about that. you write, after all, with impeccable grammar. That is not what is at issue.  i just hope that, when you don&#8217;t understand something, you do some research or soul-searching first. Don&#8217;t immediately label it as retarded. Think first.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 23:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, onetamad, but the man&#039;s got a point. Not only did you botch up your facts (or did you? too bad we&#039;re too indolent to fact check), you totally failed to empathise with the undin.

Now put yourself in the refrigerator&#039;s shoes.

--

@alan
He did admit the undin was scary. Compared to, say, the aquarium or the pump. Which are still retarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, onetamad, but the man&#8217;s got a point. Not only did you botch up your facts (or did you? too bad we&#8217;re too indolent to fact check), you totally failed to empathise with the undin.</p>
<p>Now put yourself in the refrigerator&#8217;s shoes.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>@alan<br />
He did admit the undin was scary. Compared to, say, the aquarium or the pump. Which are still retarded.</p>
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		<title>By: onetamad</title>
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		<dc:creator>onetamad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 23:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what&#039;s retarded?

&quot;Yes, a toilet and its sewage system, because it could possibly allow you to travel in the house without being seen. Now, is that so retarded? You didn’t even put yourself in the undin’s shoes.&quot;

I&#039;m sorry. The suspension of my disbelief does not, cannot go that far.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Yes, a toilet and its sewage system, because it could possibly allow you to travel in the house without being seen. Now, is that so retarded? You didn’t even put yourself in the undin’s shoes.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry. The suspension of my disbelief does not, cannot go that far.</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 21:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. that&#039;s not the general gist of your article. you started out by saying how retarded these monsters are in the shake rattle and roll series. that was a deliberate dig in your part to say that these monsters are not valid monsters, and even proposing they are ridiculous. you even tried to single out the statistic that 11% of manila didn&#039;t have a sewer system, and that a sewer system was virtually nonexistent in the province - your subtle point being that, since this monster that travels through the sewer system doesnt have a factual sewer system to travel in, therefore it&#039;s laughably inaccurate; ergo, since it&#039;s factually inaccurate, the horror it creates in people is unreasonable and untenable in your perspective. therefore, it;s retarded and shouldn&#039;t be scary. you were trying to invalidate how people felt about a fictional movie on the basis of a true-to-life statistic. truth be told, what scares people is usually something unreasonable, something illogical, something mysterious. using logic to shoot down something scary (which is what you did) is not convincing.

again, as i said, what scares one person may not scary some other. you can&#039;t just call something retarded, just because you don&#039;t understand the mythos. your attempt to demystify this undin character to me seems a very boring approach. i actually find it fascinating that a seemingly illogical monster could inspire such a reaction from filipinos regarding toilets. something deep was touched. fear was created. and your reaction to it was to dismiss it as retarded? hello.

2. the undin, as a sea creature, likes to swim in water. if you were an undin and you hunted someone down into his house, into an out-of-water environment, what part of a house would you think you&#039;d use to maximize your decreased advantage? yes, a toilet and its sewage system, because it could possibly allow you to travel in the house without being seen. now, is that so retarded? you didn&#039;t even put yourself in the undin&#039;s shoes. now was that so hard to understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. that&#8217;s not the general gist of your article. you started out by saying how retarded these monsters are in the shake rattle and roll series. that was a deliberate dig in your part to say that these monsters are not valid monsters, and even proposing they are ridiculous. you even tried to single out the statistic that 11% of manila didn&#8217;t have a sewer system, and that a sewer system was virtually nonexistent in the province &#8211; your subtle point being that, since this monster that travels through the sewer system doesnt have a factual sewer system to travel in, therefore it&#8217;s laughably inaccurate; ergo, since it&#8217;s factually inaccurate, the horror it creates in people is unreasonable and untenable in your perspective. therefore, it;s retarded and shouldn&#8217;t be scary. you were trying to invalidate how people felt about a fictional movie on the basis of a true-to-life statistic. truth be told, what scares people is usually something unreasonable, something illogical, something mysterious. using logic to shoot down something scary (which is what you did) is not convincing.</p>
<p>again, as i said, what scares one person may not scary some other. you can&#8217;t just call something retarded, just because you don&#8217;t understand the mythos. your attempt to demystify this undin character to me seems a very boring approach. i actually find it fascinating that a seemingly illogical monster could inspire such a reaction from filipinos regarding toilets. something deep was touched. fear was created. and your reaction to it was to dismiss it as retarded? hello.</p>
<p>2. the undin, as a sea creature, likes to swim in water. if you were an undin and you hunted someone down into his house, into an out-of-water environment, what part of a house would you think you&#8217;d use to maximize your decreased advantage? yes, a toilet and its sewage system, because it could possibly allow you to travel in the house without being seen. now, is that so retarded? you didn&#8217;t even put yourself in the undin&#8217;s shoes. now was that so hard to understand?</p>
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