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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 04:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Renato: What the hell has that got to do with anything, you rambling pedant?

And your &quot;proof&quot; explicitly states that McKinley &quot;did not know what to do&quot; with the Philippines; nowhere does it say that he didn&#039;t want it or &quot;its low-IQ inhabitants&quot;.

You&#039;ve been leaving your comments all over the site, but what is it you really want to say? Are you hating on America? Are you hating on the Philippines? Do you want to expose some conspiracy? Why don&#039;t you write a coherent, cohesive article, your beliefs, your manifesto--whatever--and we may post it on the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Renato: What the hell has that got to do with anything, you rambling pedant?</p>
<p>And your &#8220;proof&#8221; explicitly states that McKinley &#8220;did not know what to do&#8221; with the Philippines; nowhere does it say that he didn&#8217;t want it or &#8220;its low-IQ inhabitants&#8221;.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve been leaving your comments all over the site, but what is it you really want to say? Are you hating on America? Are you hating on the Philippines? Do you want to expose some conspiracy? Why don&#8217;t you write a coherent, cohesive article, your beliefs, your manifesto&#8211;whatever&#8211;and we may post it on the site.</p>
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		<title>By: Renato Pacifico</title>
		<link>http://www.indolentindio.com/2008/07/xenophobia-begins-at-home-1-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-3668</link>
		<dc:creator>Renato Pacifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the Americans routed the Spanish armada, The admiral sent a frigate to Hong-Kong to fetch Gen. Aguinaldo.  Month after Gen. Aguinaldo arrived in Manila he declared independence.  The Americans helped draft the Malolos Constitution then the &quot;independent&quot; Flippers turned against the Americans in 6-months.  TOTALLY AN ACT OF BETRAYAL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the Americans routed the Spanish armada, The admiral sent a frigate to Hong-Kong to fetch Gen. Aguinaldo.  Month after Gen. Aguinaldo arrived in Manila he declared independence.  The Americans helped draft the Malolos Constitution then the &#8220;independent&#8221; Flippers turned against the Americans in 6-months.  TOTALLY AN ACT OF BETRAYAL.</p>
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		<title>By: Renato Pacifico</title>
		<link>http://www.indolentindio.com/2008/07/xenophobia-begins-at-home-1-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-3667</link>
		<dc:creator>Renato Pacifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what US Pres. McKinley has to say, proof that America really didn\&#039;t want Philippines and its low-IQ inhabitants:

\&quot;When I next realized that the Philippines had dropped into our laps I confess I did not know what to do with them. I sought counsel from all sides—Democrats as well as Republicans—but got little help. I thought first we would take only Manila; then Luzon; then other islands perhaps also. I walked the floor of the White House night after night until midnight; and I am not ashamed to tell you, gentlemen, that I went down on my knees and prayed Almighty God for light and guidance more than one night. And one night late it came to me this way—I don’t know how it was, but it came: (1) That we could not give them back to Spain—that would be cowardly and dishonorable; (2) that we could not turn them over to France and Germany—our commercial rivals in the Orient—that would be bad business and discreditable; (3) that we could not leave them to themselves—they were unfit for self-government—and they would soon have anarchy and misrule over there worse than Spain’s was; and (4) that there was nothing left for us to do but to take them all, and to educate the Filipinos, and uplift and civilize and Christianize them, and by God’s grace do the very best we could by them, as our fellow-men for whom Christ also died. And then I went to bed, and went to sleep, and slept soundly, and the next morning I sent for the chief engineer of the War Department (our map-maker), and I told him to put the Philippines on the map of the United States (pointing to a large map on the wall of his office), and there they are, and there they will stay while I am President!\&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what US Pres. McKinley has to say, proof that America really didn\&#8217;t want Philippines and its low-IQ inhabitants:</p>
<p>\&quot;When I next realized that the Philippines had dropped into our laps I confess I did not know what to do with them. I sought counsel from all sides—Democrats as well as Republicans—but got little help. I thought first we would take only Manila; then Luzon; then other islands perhaps also. I walked the floor of the White House night after night until midnight; and I am not ashamed to tell you, gentlemen, that I went down on my knees and prayed Almighty God for light and guidance more than one night. And one night late it came to me this way—I don’t know how it was, but it came: (1) That we could not give them back to Spain—that would be cowardly and dishonorable; (2) that we could not turn them over to France and Germany—our commercial rivals in the Orient—that would be bad business and discreditable; (3) that we could not leave them to themselves—they were unfit for self-government—and they would soon have anarchy and misrule over there worse than Spain’s was; and (4) that there was nothing left for us to do but to take them all, and to educate the Filipinos, and uplift and civilize and Christianize them, and by God’s grace do the very best we could by them, as our fellow-men for whom Christ also died. And then I went to bed, and went to sleep, and slept soundly, and the next morning I sent for the chief engineer of the War Department (our map-maker), and I told him to put the Philippines on the map of the United States (pointing to a large map on the wall of his office), and there they are, and there they will stay while I am President!\&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Renato Pacifico</title>
		<link>http://www.indolentindio.com/2008/07/xenophobia-begins-at-home-1-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-3666</link>
		<dc:creator>Renato Pacifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what US Pres. McKinley has to say, proof that America really didn&#039;t want Philippines and its low-IQ inhabitants:

&quot;When I next realized that the Philippines had dropped into our laps I confess I did not know what to do with them. I sought counsel from all sides—Democrats as well as Republicans—but got little help. I thought first we would take only Manila; then Luzon; then other islands perhaps also. I walked the floor of the White House night after night until midnight; and I am not ashamed to tell you, gentlemen, that I went down on my knees and prayed Almighty God for light and guidance more than one night. And one night late it came to me this way—I don’t know how it was, but it came: (1) That we could not give them back to Spain—that would be cowardly and dishonorable; (2) that we could not turn them over to France and Germany—our commercial rivals in the Orient—that would be bad business and discreditable; (3) that we could not leave them to themselves—they were unfit for self-government—and they would soon have anarchy and misrule over there worse than Spain’s was; and (4) that there was nothing left for us to do but to take them all, and to educate the Filipinos, and uplift and civilize and Christianize them, and by God’s grace do the very best we could by them, as our fellow-men for whom Christ also died. And then I went to bed, and went to sleep, and slept soundly, and the next morning I sent for the chief engineer of the War Department (our map-maker), and I told him to put the Philippines on the map of the United States (pointing to a large map on the wall of his office), and there they are, and there they will stay while I am President!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what US Pres. McKinley has to say, proof that America really didn&#8217;t want Philippines and its low-IQ inhabitants:</p>
<p>&#8220;When I next realized that the Philippines had dropped into our laps I confess I did not know what to do with them. I sought counsel from all sides—Democrats as well as Republicans—but got little help. I thought first we would take only Manila; then Luzon; then other islands perhaps also. I walked the floor of the White House night after night until midnight; and I am not ashamed to tell you, gentlemen, that I went down on my knees and prayed Almighty God for light and guidance more than one night. And one night late it came to me this way—I don’t know how it was, but it came: (1) That we could not give them back to Spain—that would be cowardly and dishonorable; (2) that we could not turn them over to France and Germany—our commercial rivals in the Orient—that would be bad business and discreditable; (3) that we could not leave them to themselves—they were unfit for self-government—and they would soon have anarchy and misrule over there worse than Spain’s was; and (4) that there was nothing left for us to do but to take them all, and to educate the Filipinos, and uplift and civilize and Christianize them, and by God’s grace do the very best we could by them, as our fellow-men for whom Christ also died. And then I went to bed, and went to sleep, and slept soundly, and the next morning I sent for the chief engineer of the War Department (our map-maker), and I told him to put the Philippines on the map of the United States (pointing to a large map on the wall of his office), and there they are, and there they will stay while I am President!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Renato Pacifico</title>
		<link>http://www.indolentindio.com/2008/07/xenophobia-begins-at-home-1-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-3665</link>
		<dc:creator>Renato Pacifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zaide was a tool of the predecessor of CIA.  Zaide never told us it was Howard Taft that appointed Jose Rizal as a national hero.  Zaide never told us that Americans were not interested in colonizing Philippines.  Philippines was an accidental colony by the America.  America did not come to the Philippines to wrest control from Spain BUT because America was at war with Spain.  Pres. McKinley ordered Admiral I-forgot-his-name to route the Spanish Armada in Manila Bay without intention in invading Philippines.  Zaide is a Filipino, therefore, a fool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaide was a tool of the predecessor of CIA.  Zaide never told us it was Howard Taft that appointed Jose Rizal as a national hero.  Zaide never told us that Americans were not interested in colonizing Philippines.  Philippines was an accidental colony by the America.  America did not come to the Philippines to wrest control from Spain BUT because America was at war with Spain.  Pres. McKinley ordered Admiral I-forgot-his-name to route the Spanish Armada in Manila Bay without intention in invading Philippines.  Zaide is a Filipino, therefore, a fool.</p>
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		<title>By: Renato Pacifico</title>
		<link>http://www.indolentindio.com/2008/07/xenophobia-begins-at-home-1-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-3664</link>
		<dc:creator>Renato Pacifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>onetamad, I am not worth calling &quot;Mr.&quot;.  I am just a cyber-bum.  

You have a good artsy abstract taste of preaching.  It is not even lame jokes.  It is a goot joke that hits right at the heart of the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>onetamad, I am not worth calling &#8220;Mr.&#8221;.  I am just a cyber-bum.  </p>
<p>You have a good artsy abstract taste of preaching.  It is not even lame jokes.  It is a goot joke that hits right at the heart of the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: onetamad</title>
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		<dc:creator>onetamad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 06:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Pacifico, racism and bigotry spring from xenophobia. 

We are on the same side, sir. We just do our preaching with lame jokes and pictures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Pacifico, racism and bigotry spring from xenophobia. </p>
<p>We are on the same side, sir. We just do our preaching with lame jokes and pictures.</p>
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		<title>By: Renato Pacifico</title>
		<link>http://www.indolentindio.com/2008/07/xenophobia-begins-at-home-1-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-3649</link>
		<dc:creator>Renato Pacifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 23:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xenophobia?  What about racism and bigotry?  Hottest selling pa-beauty creams are Gluthathione, St Flouride, industrial-strength skin-whitening Eskinol lotion with Papay Extract.  All of these products makes your skin smooth and white not brown like Filipinos.

Filipinos measure beauty by the color of the skin.  Pag tisoy, tisay, tsinito, tsinita ka magandaaaa!  

Filipinos measure IQ by the englishctzes you speakengese.  Pag-magaling ang englischtzes mata-as ang IQ!

Pag-nando-on na sa America, nangkaliskis ng Tilapia!  Hmmmppfff!!!!  Ang yabang talaga!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xenophobia?  What about racism and bigotry?  Hottest selling pa-beauty creams are Gluthathione, St Flouride, industrial-strength skin-whitening Eskinol lotion with Papay Extract.  All of these products makes your skin smooth and white not brown like Filipinos.</p>
<p>Filipinos measure beauty by the color of the skin.  Pag tisoy, tisay, tsinito, tsinita ka magandaaaa!  </p>
<p>Filipinos measure IQ by the englishctzes you speakengese.  Pag-magaling ang englischtzes mata-as ang IQ!</p>
<p>Pag-nando-on na sa America, nangkaliskis ng Tilapia!  Hmmmppfff!!!!  Ang yabang talaga!</p>
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		<title>By: onetamad</title>
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		<dc:creator>onetamad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike: Indians are disliked for no reason at all except for being different. Well, also generally dark skin. 

It&#039;s our sickness, I guess. We hate ourselves for not being white enough, and by extension look down on anyone less white than us. 

Indian moneylenders are actually pretty cool, and have tided over many a family through hard times. But being Filipinos, we tend to forget this when it&#039;s time to pay up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike: Indians are disliked for no reason at all except for being different. Well, also generally dark skin. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s our sickness, I guess. We hate ourselves for not being white enough, and by extension look down on anyone less white than us. </p>
<p>Indian moneylenders are actually pretty cool, and have tided over many a family through hard times. But being Filipinos, we tend to forget this when it&#8217;s time to pay up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Antibeast gets the undercurrent of the people.

If the Bumbays provide micro-credit to people who can&#039;t get any loan from bank, friends or relatives - what&#039;s wrong?  Last time I checked - no body hated pawnshops for one&#039;s own misfortune - why take out the anger of poverty on a community that actually takes a real risk on its money (and life) and bets on the Filipino to thrive from such help.  It&#039;s shameful. 

The Chinese too lend money - albeit, at a higher scale and to a different strata of society. Perhaps that&#039;s why they in their SUVs are envied and respected while the Bumbay collecting micropayments on the bike in scorching sun gets curses hurled at. 

As far as hygiene is concerned, Filipinos take it a step ahead.  I have WTF moments every time I see someone use a fork &amp; knife to eat chicken wings or a clubhouse sandwich.  At the same time, it is probably ok to eat Dinuguan at a Jollijeep across the street. Or to roast an entire piglet and let the aroma spread in Salcedo Village.  To eat such tempting dishes and claim that Indians smell foul like curry is silly. Last I checked, Curry was taking over the world.  

Seems that the Indians are disliked for no good enough reason. Perhaps, they are an easy and safe target for the masses. 

It&#039;s heartening however to listen to all the testimonies of kindness and friendship that the cab drivers recall from their time in Gulf with Indian peers.


@Miss Choi,

Although it&#039;s chuckling to accept feedback on driving from girls :)  I agree, Indian youths are aggressive and undisciplined on the road - not every single one of them, but a lot of them.

You are right about workplace too, Indians don&#039;t take to criticism lightly, unless it is grounded and constructive. At times if not all, Filipinos are too nice to be blunt and objective so the sandwiched/roundabout feedback comes across as a whining wastage of time and not something valuable and actionable.  

We are victims of contrasting natures- Indians are too objective and direct while Filipinos would rather shut up than have a confrontation.  I have consciously tried to change myself over these years so if we ever work together - perhaps your perception will change :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Antibeast gets the undercurrent of the people.</p>
<p>If the Bumbays provide micro-credit to people who can&#8217;t get any loan from bank, friends or relatives &#8211; what&#8217;s wrong?  Last time I checked &#8211; no body hated pawnshops for one&#8217;s own misfortune &#8211; why take out the anger of poverty on a community that actually takes a real risk on its money (and life) and bets on the Filipino to thrive from such help.  It&#8217;s shameful. </p>
<p>The Chinese too lend money &#8211; albeit, at a higher scale and to a different strata of society. Perhaps that&#8217;s why they in their SUVs are envied and respected while the Bumbay collecting micropayments on the bike in scorching sun gets curses hurled at. </p>
<p>As far as hygiene is concerned, Filipinos take it a step ahead.  I have WTF moments every time I see someone use a fork &amp; knife to eat chicken wings or a clubhouse sandwich.  At the same time, it is probably ok to eat Dinuguan at a Jollijeep across the street. Or to roast an entire piglet and let the aroma spread in Salcedo Village.  To eat such tempting dishes and claim that Indians smell foul like curry is silly. Last I checked, Curry was taking over the world.  </p>
<p>Seems that the Indians are disliked for no good enough reason. Perhaps, they are an easy and safe target for the masses. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s heartening however to listen to all the testimonies of kindness and friendship that the cab drivers recall from their time in Gulf with Indian peers.</p>
<p>@Miss Choi,</p>
<p>Although it&#8217;s chuckling to accept feedback on driving from girls <img src='http://www.indolentindio.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I agree, Indian youths are aggressive and undisciplined on the road &#8211; not every single one of them, but a lot of them.</p>
<p>You are right about workplace too, Indians don&#8217;t take to criticism lightly, unless it is grounded and constructive. At times if not all, Filipinos are too nice to be blunt and objective so the sandwiched/roundabout feedback comes across as a whining wastage of time and not something valuable and actionable.  </p>
<p>We are victims of contrasting natures- Indians are too objective and direct while Filipinos would rather shut up than have a confrontation.  I have consciously tried to change myself over these years so if we ever work together &#8211; perhaps your perception will change <img src='http://www.indolentindio.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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