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		<title>By: Anti-Social Media: Fact-check Fail &#171; Indolent Indio</title>
		<link>http://www.indolentindio.com/2008/04/veneration-without/comment-page-1/#comment-5262</link>
		<dc:creator>Anti-Social Media: Fact-check Fail &#171; Indolent Indio</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] is something that we found on Facebook that shows national hero Dr. Jose Rizal is going the way of Ernesto &#8220;Che&#8221; Guevara.  In a few years, Rizal will be a cultural [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is something that we found on Facebook that shows national hero Dr. Jose Rizal is going the way of Ernesto &#8220;Che&#8221; Guevara.  In a few years, Rizal will be a cultural [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Renato Pacifico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renato Pacifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nine years after Noli Mi Tangere was published in Berlin, Jose Rizal was \&quot;martyred\&quot; in Luneta.  

6 months after Americans liberated Phiippines from Spain, Filipinos turned against Americans!  6 months, dude!  Traydor ang mga Filipinos!

According to history books, galit ang mga Filipinos sa America because they were not allowed to enter Intramurus.  Ing-git sila sa Americano who went in and Spaniards surrendered.

According to Admiral Dewey and American strategist, if they allowed Filipinos to go in, Filipinos would likely be routed because of inferior arms and Americans were afraid they might loot intramurus like they loot Malacanang after EDSA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nine years after Noli Mi Tangere was published in Berlin, Jose Rizal was \&quot;martyred\&quot; in Luneta.  </p>
<p>6 months after Americans liberated Phiippines from Spain, Filipinos turned against Americans!  6 months, dude!  Traydor ang mga Filipinos!</p>
<p>According to history books, galit ang mga Filipinos sa America because they were not allowed to enter Intramurus.  Ing-git sila sa Americano who went in and Spaniards surrendered.</p>
<p>According to Admiral Dewey and American strategist, if they allowed Filipinos to go in, Filipinos would likely be routed because of inferior arms and Americans were afraid they might loot intramurus like they loot Malacanang after EDSA.</p>
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		<title>By: Renato Pacifico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renato Pacifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nine years after Noli Mi Tangere was published in Berlin, Jose Rizal was &quot;martyred&quot; in Luneta.  

6 months after Americans liberated Phiippines from Spain, Filipinos turned against Americans!  6 months, dude!  Traydor ang mga Filipinos!

According to history books, galit ang mga Filipinos sa America because they were not allowed to enter Intramurus.  Ing-git sila sa Americano who went in and Spaniards surrendered.

According to Admiral Dewey and American strategist, if they allowed Filipinos to go in, Filipinos would likely be routed because of inferior arms and Americans were afraid they might loot intramurus like they loot Malacanang after EDSA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nine years after Noli Mi Tangere was published in Berlin, Jose Rizal was &#8220;martyred&#8221; in Luneta.  </p>
<p>6 months after Americans liberated Phiippines from Spain, Filipinos turned against Americans!  6 months, dude!  Traydor ang mga Filipinos!</p>
<p>According to history books, galit ang mga Filipinos sa America because they were not allowed to enter Intramurus.  Ing-git sila sa Americano who went in and Spaniards surrendered.</p>
<p>According to Admiral Dewey and American strategist, if they allowed Filipinos to go in, Filipinos would likely be routed because of inferior arms and Americans were afraid they might loot intramurus like they loot Malacanang after EDSA.</p>
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		<title>By: Renato Pacifico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renato Pacifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;connect&quot; is this:

It took Admiral Dewey 3 days to steam from China to Manila Bay.  So, how long does it take for Noli Mi Tangere to travel from Berlin to Manila?  How long does it take to distribute Noli Mi Tangere from Manila to all outlying provinces?  Aaah, yes, by Philippine Air Lines.

When Admiral Dewey vanquished the Spaniards, according to Wikipedia, only 10% understand spanish.  Noli Mi Tangere was written in Spanish.

Who&#039;d print and publish Noli Mi Tangere when there was no evident readership?  If Noli Mi Tangere was so HOT!  How many were printed, how many were bought, how many were read?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;connect&#8221; is this:</p>
<p>It took Admiral Dewey 3 days to steam from China to Manila Bay.  So, how long does it take for Noli Mi Tangere to travel from Berlin to Manila?  How long does it take to distribute Noli Mi Tangere from Manila to all outlying provinces?  Aaah, yes, by Philippine Air Lines.</p>
<p>When Admiral Dewey vanquished the Spaniards, according to Wikipedia, only 10% understand spanish.  Noli Mi Tangere was written in Spanish.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;d print and publish Noli Mi Tangere when there was no evident readership?  If Noli Mi Tangere was so HOT!  How many were printed, how many were bought, how many were read?</p>
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		<title>By: nepenthe</title>
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		<dc:creator>nepenthe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 19:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You had me at connect sir.

Well said.

Dude. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You had me at connect sir.</p>
<p>Well said.</p>
<p>Dude. <img src='http://www.indolentindio.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Renato Pacifico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renato Pacifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noli Me Tangere was published 1887 in Berlin.  In one year time, the Philippines was never the same again.  WHAT?  Yeah, baby, Noli Me Tangere spread like wildfire in the Philippines in 1887 much faster than internet.  There must have been BArnes&amp;Nobles in every island in every street corner at that time.  Filipinos must be overly wealthy to buy the book which written in spanish.  WoW!  SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG WITH OUR HISTORY HERE.

Wiki Noli Me Tangere date published.  Published i 1887.  Printed in Berlin.  Shipped by air to Philippines?  Then connect Rizal&#039;s execution.  Then connect it again to Spanish-American war in Manila Bay.  Then connect it Gen. Aguinaldo&#039;s declaration of Independence.  Then connect the act of treason by the Filipinos against Americans who helped them gain independence.

From the looks of it there was internet back in the days of the Spaniards.  DUDE!  And all Filipinos fell for it.  FILIPINOS ARE GREAT!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noli Me Tangere was published 1887 in Berlin.  In one year time, the Philippines was never the same again.  WHAT?  Yeah, baby, Noli Me Tangere spread like wildfire in the Philippines in 1887 much faster than internet.  There must have been BArnes&amp;Nobles in every island in every street corner at that time.  Filipinos must be overly wealthy to buy the book which written in spanish.  WoW!  SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG WITH OUR HISTORY HERE.</p>
<p>Wiki Noli Me Tangere date published.  Published i 1887.  Printed in Berlin.  Shipped by air to Philippines?  Then connect Rizal&#8217;s execution.  Then connect it again to Spanish-American war in Manila Bay.  Then connect it Gen. Aguinaldo&#8217;s declaration of Independence.  Then connect the act of treason by the Filipinos against Americans who helped them gain independence.</p>
<p>From the looks of it there was internet back in the days of the Spaniards.  DUDE!  And all Filipinos fell for it.  FILIPINOS ARE GREAT!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Renato Pacifico</title>
		<link>http://www.indolentindio.com/2008/04/veneration-without/comment-page-1/#comment-3669</link>
		<dc:creator>Renato Pacifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do people call me &quot;Mr.&quot;?  I am a single 25-years-old cyber-bum!!!!!  I live in the internet with no address.

Well, JOSE RIZAL a middle-class?  A middle-class who travelled far and wide?  Hmmmmm ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do people call me &#8220;Mr.&#8221;?  I am a single 25-years-old cyber-bum!!!!!  I live in the internet with no address.</p>
<p>Well, JOSE RIZAL a middle-class?  A middle-class who travelled far and wide?  Hmmmmm &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nepenthe</title>
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		<dc:creator>nepenthe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 03:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm,do you even know what your talking about,MR.PACIFICO?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhm,do you even know what your talking about,MR.PACIFICO?</p>
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		<title>By: Renato Pacifico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renato Pacifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 22:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks to Governor Taft for appoint Jose Rizal as our national hero.  If it were not for Gov Taft, Filipinos would be slitting throughts until now as to who would have been the national hero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks to Governor Taft for appoint Jose Rizal as our national hero.  If it were not for Gov Taft, Filipinos would be slitting throughts until now as to who would have been the national hero.</p>
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		<title>By: nepenthe</title>
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		<dc:creator>nepenthe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 13:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rizal is from the middle class,just like Aguinaldo.both are counter revolutionaries.they should be treated as traitors.

&quot;Rizal confesses that sometime between August 26 and 31, 1896, when
hostilities broke out, he told Gov. Gen. Blanco everything he knew
about the Katipunan and offered to lead a counter-revolutionary
campaign and to die fighting against the Katipunan, and that he
made the offer to die fighting against the Katipunan in a personal
letter which he wrote aboard the Castilla, and which was witnessed by a certain Col. Santalo...

From the beginning, when I had news of what
was being planned (i.e., the Revolution), I opposed it, fought it, and
demonstrated its absolute impossibility... When later, inspite of my
counsels, the movement broke out, I spontaneously offered not only my
services, but my life, and even my name, so that they might use them in the
manner they saw fit to suppress the rebellion...—Rizal, December 15,
Manifesto.
Nay, when the uprising broke out, I was on board the Castilla,
incommunicado, and I offered myself unconditionally to His Excellency...to
suppress the rebellion. But this was a personal letter and it was witnessed
by Col. Santalo. This cannot be used without the permission of His
Excellency...—Rizal, Data for My Defense&quot;

The murderer of Andres Bonifacio and two-time vendor of the
Revolution Emilio Aguinaldo confesses that his brand of patriotism
was entirely Rizalian reformist-assimilationist, that he and the all-
Caviteno conspirators at Tejeros and Biak-na-Bato were opposed to
independence and were never for independence, that they merely
wanted to have the friars expelled or curbed, that he ordered
Bonifacio shot like a dog, and that he was happy and proud to think
that having murdered Bonifacio thus, the Katipunan, and therewith
the Revolution, disappeared with him... 

&quot;The patriotism I speak of today
will be unchangeable. We took to the field, not because we wished for
separation from the mother country. But because we are tired of bearing the
material and moral burden of that arch, the keystone of which in our
country is the friars. It is quite true that the Katipunan instilled in us
another desire—that of independence—but that desire was unattainable,
and moreover, it was in opposition to our sentiments. It served as the
banner of Andres Bonifacio, a cruel man whom I ordered shot, and with his
death the Katipunan disappeared...&quot;—Emilio Aguinaldo, Interview with El
Imparcial, a Madrid newspaper, December 27, 1897.

all excerpts from THE EVIL THAT MEN DO
the philippine culture of corruption
a sociological, historical, and philosophical investigation
domingo castro de guzman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rizal is from the middle class,just like Aguinaldo.both are counter revolutionaries.they should be treated as traitors.</p>
<p>&#8220;Rizal confesses that sometime between August 26 and 31, 1896, when<br />
hostilities broke out, he told Gov. Gen. Blanco everything he knew<br />
about the Katipunan and offered to lead a counter-revolutionary<br />
campaign and to die fighting against the Katipunan, and that he<br />
made the offer to die fighting against the Katipunan in a personal<br />
letter which he wrote aboard the Castilla, and which was witnessed by a certain Col. Santalo&#8230;</p>
<p>From the beginning, when I had news of what<br />
was being planned (i.e., the Revolution), I opposed it, fought it, and<br />
demonstrated its absolute impossibility&#8230; When later, inspite of my<br />
counsels, the movement broke out, I spontaneously offered not only my<br />
services, but my life, and even my name, so that they might use them in the<br />
manner they saw fit to suppress the rebellion&#8230;—Rizal, December 15,<br />
Manifesto.<br />
Nay, when the uprising broke out, I was on board the Castilla,<br />
incommunicado, and I offered myself unconditionally to His Excellency&#8230;to<br />
suppress the rebellion. But this was a personal letter and it was witnessed<br />
by Col. Santalo. This cannot be used without the permission of His<br />
Excellency&#8230;—Rizal, Data for My Defense&#8221;</p>
<p>The murderer of Andres Bonifacio and two-time vendor of the<br />
Revolution Emilio Aguinaldo confesses that his brand of patriotism<br />
was entirely Rizalian reformist-assimilationist, that he and the all-<br />
Caviteno conspirators at Tejeros and Biak-na-Bato were opposed to<br />
independence and were never for independence, that they merely<br />
wanted to have the friars expelled or curbed, that he ordered<br />
Bonifacio shot like a dog, and that he was happy and proud to think<br />
that having murdered Bonifacio thus, the Katipunan, and therewith<br />
the Revolution, disappeared with him&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8220;The patriotism I speak of today<br />
will be unchangeable. We took to the field, not because we wished for<br />
separation from the mother country. But because we are tired of bearing the<br />
material and moral burden of that arch, the keystone of which in our<br />
country is the friars. It is quite true that the Katipunan instilled in us<br />
another desire—that of independence—but that desire was unattainable,<br />
and moreover, it was in opposition to our sentiments. It served as the<br />
banner of Andres Bonifacio, a cruel man whom I ordered shot, and with his<br />
death the Katipunan disappeared&#8230;&#8221;—Emilio Aguinaldo, Interview with El<br />
Imparcial, a Madrid newspaper, December 27, 1897.</p>
<p>all excerpts from THE EVIL THAT MEN DO<br />
the philippine culture of corruption<br />
a sociological, historical, and philosophical investigation<br />
domingo castro de guzman</p>
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